# No Redux in Next.js 13 course

**URL:** <https://forum.codewithmosh.com/t/no-redux-in-next-js-13-course/22534>\
**Category:** Next.js\
**Created:** [September 15, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.codewithmosh.com/t/no-redux-in-next-js-13-course/22534 "2023-09-15T15:43:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![pcannata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f475e1/32.png) [@pcannata](https://forum.codewithmosh.com/u/pcannata)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.codewithmosh.com/t/no-redux-in-next-js-13-course/22534/1 "2023-09-15T15:43:23Z")

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Is there a need for Redux when using Next and React and if so, why isn’t it included in the new Next.js 13 course?

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**Author:** ![chaykov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.codewithmosh.com/chaykov/32/6988_2.png) [@chaykov](https://forum.codewithmosh.com/u/chaykov)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 11:40am UTC](https://forum.codewithmosh.com/t/no-redux-in-next-js-13-course/22534/2 "2023-09-17T11:40:21Z")

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There is a React Query instead of Redux.

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**Author:** ![Mosh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.codewithmosh.com/mosh/32/8948_2.png) [@Mosh](https://forum.codewithmosh.com/u/Mosh)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.codewithmosh.com/t/no-redux-in-next-js-13-course/22534/3 "2023-10-16T15:36:55Z")

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Redux is used in applications with client-side state. When using Next.js, we move most of the state to the server and the client has very little state to maintain. So, Redux is not needed in Next.js apps. Also, it’s been overused in most React.js apps and the result is overly complex applications with terrible, unmaintainable code. Stay away from it. If you really need a state management solution on the client, go for Zustand.
